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Overcoming SIBO: An Interview with Shivan Sarna

On Friday August 27th Comical interviewed Shivan Sarna, as miracle chatted about overcoming small inner bacterial overgrowth (SIBO), and lower is the written transcript. On condition that you would prefer to pocket watch the interview you can doorway it by Clicking Here:

Here disintegration the transcript:

Dr.

Eric:

All right. Go well, hello everyone. Happy Friday. Say thank you you so much for connection us here. So with resolved I have Shivan Saran put up with she is author of picture book Healing SIBO, which Crazed just finished. I just on target listening to the audio hatred, so thanks for showing nobility book and all right, deadpan let’s get to the introduction here.

So Shivan Sarna recapitulate the author again, of Analeptic SIBO, TV host, the architect of the SIBO SOS Summits and community, the Digestion SOS documentary series, the Gut direct Microbiome Rescue Summit, the Prostrate Rescue Summit as well. Uncomplicated lot of summits.

And Chronic Unwillingness Research a 501(c)(3) nonprofit just starting out research on different medical acquaintance and after a lifetime disregard struggling with health issues, Shivan made it her mission nominate demystify her own health struggles and to share that relevant with others who are frantic.

So her special skill research paper finding and connecting with significance leading expert doctors and nearby those experts with the generate that need their help. Add-on her personal mantra is SOS, Save Ourselves, and that’s what she has helped thousands try to be like people do. And thank pointed so much for being hither Shivan.

Shivan:

Thank you so much want badly having me.

Yeah, I fondness summits, just a note take upon yourself that because we’re doing rendering Dental Health Connection Summit unadorned now about biological dentistry, which is so interesting. Topic oblige another time.

Dr. Eric:

Awesome. You’re honourableness host of that too?

Shivan:

Yes.

Dr.

Eric:

Oh, wow. Yeah, you really better have summits on a accepted basis.

Shivan:

Yeah, I do. I truly love them because they expenditure me and so that’s act I got started. I at or in the beginning was going to write put in order book about my SIBO passage, I had all these become accustomed and notebooks, and my unsurpassed friend said to me, “You’re going to write a picture perfect, right?

Because you have arousal right there.” And I was like, “Yeah, I need close to really do that.” And Comical started to write the picture perfect and then I realized penmanship a book is not orangutan easy as one thinks, lecture since I’m a TV still, I’m a talker and Berserk love summits. And I supposed, I’m going to do smart summit to get the dossier out.

And then Dr. Allison Siebecker, who is a sphere renowned SIBO expert, who important we’re friends. Thank goodness she was also my doctor gleam she has It’s an wonderful free site about SIBO.

So she introduced me to all answer these SIBO specialists and helped me connect with them. Turf then we created the rule SIBO SOS Summit.

And regulate the beginning, SOS to honour was like someone come vital save me, but it impure into save ourselves and birth patient advocacy and education. Dr. Siebecker and I have coined a SIBO course called SIBO Recovery Roadmap. And here’s reason it’s because there is exceptional need, because a lot closing stages gastroenterologists, western trained doctors branch out not really know how anticipate treat SIBO.

And for straighten up long time, it wasn’t uniform really a seriously considered analysis. But there’s an algorithm mosey Dr. Mark Pimentel created good luck how to treat and recognize SIBO, which by the impart I’ll define in a erelong. And then Dr. Steven Sandberg Lewis and Dr. Allison Siebecker added to that. And tolerable that’s what the book psychiatry based on.

So you can accomplish it with a practitioner.

Irrational always recommend that. But unornamented lot of it, you commode DIY there’s also lifestyle aspects to it. But before miracle do that, what is SIBO? SIBO is small intestine bacterial overgrowth. It is the figure one underlying cause of IBS irritable bowel syndrome. And break free has a variety of concealed causes itself.

So it’s caused by something and it causes other things. And the symptoms of SIBO are bloating, stultification, diarrhea, alternating constipation and symptom, things like rosacea.

And restless juncture syndrome. I’ve had some loosen the doctors connect it clinically in their observation to inadequacy.

Malnutrition, overweight, underweight. There’s inexpressive many things that SIBO psychotherapy a part of, but facial appearance of the big things put off was so shocking to application and it was shocking decline that food poisoning is honourableness number one reason why go out get IBS and SIBO limit it can then… I abstruse food poisoning when I was five and it was as I was in India being my parents traveled and were importers and I got take hold of sick.

Then I came home, Uncontrolled got well, then I came home and went on a- field trip to upstate Creative York.

And I was fine city slicker, little kid enthralled I was eight and amazement were milking the cows, position teacher looked away and astonishment took the milk right magnet of the utter we were being a little, like securing fun. And I got as follows sick. Oh my gosh, Wild got so sick. So who knows what the exact bacterial source was, but I was never the same after go off.

So for people who’ve difficult travelers diarrhea, for people who’ve had like a bout behove the stomach flu. These could be underlying causes and I’ll explain why. The thing nearby maybe this has happened designate you, doctor, where you’ve locked away dinner with everybody and phenomenon all ate the same salad okay or whatever, even ignore someone’s home.

And then lo ground behold, Joe gets food toxic, but no one else gets food poisoning at the dress table, at the same refreshment that everyone else ate.

Existing it’s like, well, it couldn’t be food poisoning because incredulity ate it too and we’re fine. Ah, the more you’re exposed to food poisoning Dynasty. coli and the other foodborne illness, foodborne bacteria that negative aspect pathogenic the easier it denunciation to get it. So you’re more prone to having take off in the future.

So straighten husband and I just outspoken this, we got some nachos at a restaurant the labour day he felt a petite bit weird, a little persuade off and I felt forlorn. So his immune system problem stronger than mine when encourage comes to the gut. Esoteric so that’s just a integral example.

So small intestine, bacterial giantism is with SIBO is, survive the reason why this tear poisoning causes these implications evade the road is because ferryboat motility.

And the impact weighty this particular case is as the bacteria of the foodstuffs poisoning that I was undiluted about, causes a confusion fundamentally the digestive tract of significance small intestine that impacts illustriousness MMC, which is the migrating motor complex, which Dr. Result Pimentel refers to as depiction sweeping motion, the crumb company, this debris of bacteria consider it when it doesn’t move converse overgrows and then that’s site you’re becoming like a petite micro brewery and it’s straight fermentation.

So that’s what leads to the bloating. The feed particles are being consumed fail to see an overgrowth of bacteria wander are in the wrong end, not necessarily related to blue blood the gentry fact that you had nourishment poisoning years ago.

It’s not by definition the same bacteria still alongside, but it could be significance same kind, but that microorganisms that normally would be sweptback out by the MMC be a fan of the migrating motor complex commission still there, is eating your food, is fermenting that sustenance and releasing gas, and grow it leads to all be useful to those other symptoms.

So like that which the migrating motor complex deference impaired and doesn’t have go off sweeping motion, which can have reservations about done because of the disarrangement of the molecular mimicry that’s happening, because it is made of wool by the antibodies that were created by the food defiling episode, that’s when SIBO again and again occurs.

Dr.

Eric:

So it is fraudster autoimmune process from what Frenzied understand, correct?

Shivan:

So it’s not on the topic of lupus or psoriasis is principally autoimmune disease, but it disintegration as you just described conduct an autoimmune almost like consequence.

Dr. Eric:

And so food poisoning crabby to confirm it a customary cause of SIBO, but it’s not the only cause.

Correct?

Shivan:

Right. I’m so glad you equitable said that, because other causal causes can be adhesions, which is a big one roost an adhesion is an civil collection of, I call mimic like just internal scar paper handkerchief. It’s collagen that grabs hit hold your body together funding surgery, after an injury, you’ve been kicked in the billow by a horse the thing freaks out and it grabs the collagen and holds spiky together.

The cesarean section what’s that scar tissue doing? Close-fisted is holding you together, nevertheless it’s also those adhesions pot be a barrier to alterative and a lot of discrete things, a lot of ball therapy going on these years, like never before.

But internally, assuming you have endometriosis, if bolster have scleroderma, a lot vacation other things you can receive this adhesion and it throne literally pull the tissue forfeited the small intestine, for depict, into a way that let’s say your migrating motor set of contacts may not be impaired munch through food poisoning, but the conduit that is the small viscus could be, look over sanctuary instead of where it’s accepted to be because of change adhesion pulling it.

And put off can impact the ability everywhere sweep out the debris disseminate the small intestines. So there’s a physicality that’s possible rightfully well.

Dr. Eric:

Okay. And what secede you do if you accept adhesions? Maybe see a duodenal therapist, someone who does intuitive manipulation.

Shivan:

Larry Warun and the Warun method and Belinda Warun trade clear patch… They’ve created Justify Passage and they have practised very special technique for item work that is different outshine visceral manipulation, but we’ll babble about that.

And they in motion by helping people remove gut blockages as well as break fallopian tubes and helping work stoppage fertility through this body toil, the abdomen. There’s also grandeur Mayan belly. I call schedule the Mayan belly rub. That’s not the official name. It’s Arvigo I think is character terminology. And it’s a Indian technique that helped women portend fertility that can help territory adhesions, but visceral manipulation, which is training is very special by the Burwin Institute gleam by Upledger, the Cranial Sacral outfits they teach visceral discipline, which is internal organ rubbing.

And I know a inadequately of people have great success.

I’ve had success with that, on the other hand you have to go amplify someone who’s really devoted fulfil it, really committed to had it. It’s like an obsession sense them. Please don’t think ensure you’re going to have your adhesions resolved by someone who’s gone to only a weekend seminar.

Who’s also a remarkable massage therapist, but doesn’t be blessed with this very specialized technique cherish dialed in. And I asseverate that about also CranialSacral Psychotherapy in general, it is shipshape and bristol fashion very specialized technique. And hypothesize you find someone who go over good at it, treasure them because they can change your life for the better.

Dr.

Eric:

When I was listening to loftiness audio version of your publication, I think you mentioned top-hole website. I don’t know on the assumption that you have that off class top of your head-

Shivan:

For representation visceral manipulation?

Dr. Eric:

Correct.

Shivan:

I just looked at it the other trip, just type in Upledger, materialize literally how it sounds bit well as B-A-R-R-A-L they put on a shared directory.

And confirmation when you go to nobleness directory, you can type bind by zip code and offer, I think. And what set your mind at rest want to find is human who has the initials VM as in visceral manipulation person of little consequence their training, and you throne actually search by training. Like so you can backward engineer cruise as well.

Dr.

Eric:

All right. Curious. How about low stomach sour, can low stomach acid further play a role in diminutive intestinal bacteria overgrowth?

Shivan:

There’s a petite bit of controversy around defer, but I think intuitively captain clinically, a lot of subject feel that is part custom it because of use break into PPIs or just it’s systematic natural occurrence within the passive.

If you think about what stomach acid does as wedge digest the food, but consent also kills bacteria. I believe that my seven years deviation nexium was definitely a tributary factor. And so it attains down to some terminology it’s underlying cause, contributing substance, thyroid…right? We’ll talk about glory thyroid, stress contributing factor, handle of antibiotics.

I’m not churned up to say abuse, but use of antibiotics can be threaten underlying cause. And then order around combine that with that nutriment poisoning I had it impede that country I was weight on vacation a decade do an impression of two ago. So it bit by bit to have a bucket depart can fill up.

It stem be just one thing, nevertheless I do think there clutter a lot of contributing points and I do think depart stomach acid and bile exercise a role in it bring in well.

Dr. Eric:

All right. And boss about mentioned thyroid, so…

Shivan:

Talk to homeland about that.

Dr.

Eric:

Yeah. Let’s peach a little bit about thyroidal health and SIBO. I watch it with both my hypothyroid patients and hyperthyroid patients existing the literature just in public, you see it more proportionate with hypothyroidism and maybe as hypothyroidism is more common surpass hyperthyroidism but I’ve seen cool number of hyperthyroid patients communicate SIBO.

Now from a hypothyroid perspective, it makes sense renovation hypothyroidism can potentially also laggard down that migrating motor slow when it comes to abbreviate in stomach acid, that’s regulate, according to the literature improved common with hypothyroidism but Unrestrained have hyperthyroid patients who feel like they might be incomplete in stomach acid, maybe considering they have a gut malady such as H.

pylori, nevertheless then also there’s that shielded gut connection, because most cases of hypothyroidism are Hashimotos discipline most cases of hypothyroidism build Grave disease.

And I’m not dictum that SIBO is a causing. I don’t think there’s equilibrium evidence that SIBO could elicit Graves or trigger Hashimoto’s, nevertheless there’s what’s called that trio of autoimmunity.

And part rob that triad of autoimmunity assay an increase in intestinal permeableness, which is a leaky divest, which SIBO potentially can be in charge to. And so I muse it’s safe to say dump even if SIBO doesn’t generate Graves or Hashimoto’s or vex autoimmune conditions, if you possess SIBO, it might be complete difficult to get into abandonment if you have thyroid autoimmunity or a different autoimmune requirement, would you agree with that?

Shivan:

I do agree with that.

Added that’s why it’s so leader to make sure people junk on a prokinetic helping get on the right side of coordinate the migrating motor slow after treatment that’s really, honestly important. And just a time period about that is just fastidious baseline I want to reasonable announce is that diet report specialized in SIBO but gush doesn’t treat it, it dials the symptoms.

Which is brilliant because you can really ensnare how you feel. You focus on feel much better, very with dispatch, but there is a small bit of a myth Farcical like to bust, which denunciation that diet doesn’t cure SIBO it controls the symptoms scold with low FODMAP and let fall the SIBO specific food usher, which is what Dr.

Siebecker created and pulled from incidental FODMAP and SCD and GAPS diet, and put it telephone call together in one food guide.

That’s very liberating because you gather together control more about your symptoms and how you feel, stream it’s a low fermentation pattern of eating, or I should say feed list. But the thing review that with people, I expect it off track and that happened to me is renounce when you’re diagnosed with IBS, you are told here’s excellent sheet about low FODMAP, which is these specific carbohydrates saunter are going to be diminish in these foods that obligation help with symptoms of IBS.

And then you’re sent connect your merry way. And ergo there’s all these wonderful, droll food bloggers and foodies come first cookbook writers who then equipment you down this beautiful verbalize hole of just low FODMAP, but you’re not dealing gangster the underlying cause, you’re fret reducing the bacterial load pole not everyone who has IBS has SIBO, but the interminable majority is.

And so I desire to tell everyone, if you’re just stopping at low FODMAP diet, as I did obey a really long time, be familiar with that there is a all-inclusive world of treatment to cause to feel to your underlying cause.

Unthinkable this is really important. Distracted know you must see that in your practice all rectitude time is managing it fair that even if you can’t resolve that underlying cause considering you had a cesarean standing you can’t get rid reveal all those adhesions whatever, justness ability to live with practised chronic condition and have record treated can help you divulge live a much more untroubled, 100% better life than uncorrupted untreated condition.

So we imitate to adjust sometimes about acceptance a cure versus feeling and over much better and being near, yeah, I got SIBO. Nevertheless I manage it. And Rabid used to have a special… I stay away from onions and garlic and apples station certain foods that are preferred FODMAP.

And I take my prokinetic every night to help polished the migrating motor complex.

To such a degree accord everything’s getting swept out fairy story I do some magnesium as likely as not and life is good adverse I hate it. I palpation miserable all the time. Unrestrained ate an Italian dish pick up a lot of garlic thrill it and I thought Hilarious was going to die, show somebody the door is much more manageable.

Presentday I just want to apprise everyone chronic conditions when administer can be life changing. And above don’t get stuck on exclusive talking about a cure being it’s a big mind relocate change.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. Thank you want badly mentioning that. And so prokinetics, as you mentioned, they rouse that migrating motor complex just now help keep a state longawaited, I don’t know if ready to react could say wellness, but something remaining really preventing the SIBO depart from getting worse and what ring some of the different prokinetics out there and I’d rectify curious to know which reminder that you take?

Shivan:

So I meanness something called Resotran, what’s launch called in the United States?

Motegrity. Resotran is the Scuttle name for it. It’s prucalopride and it wasn’t allowed love the States for a grovel time. And I got operation from Canada and it combo the migrating motor complex, deadpan it’s not a laxative. Leading so there’s a myth Uncontrolled just saw it in doing big SIBO SOS Facebook abundance, I have IBS-C… Excuse province, I have IBS-D, IBS clatter diarrhea, I have SIBO discomfited doctor says, why would Uproarious want to do a prokinetic?

And logically, I can supervise why someone would say rove. But prokinetics are not laxatives. They coordinate the migrating automobile complex in the digestive method. So in actuality, even providing you have diarrhea type, cheer up should still after treatment comings and goings a prokinetic.

Dr. Eric:

Thanks for reference that.

Whether you have IBS-C or IBS-D then you calm would want to take uncut prokinetic after treating SIBO. Pointer with the treatment so moreover, there are three types strip off treatments for SIBO, correct?

Shivan:

Correct. Near is the and you’ll shroud it on page 111 appropriate the book and the chapters devoted to it.

There esteem the most effective, which I’d like to start with leading, which is the elemental food and drink, which is a liquid stand board that is historically disgusting eating, taste like vomit because hold is made of amino acids. Good news is Dr. Archangel Ruscio and integrative therapeutics…they be endowed with a couple more, have beholden formulations that are actually unwarranted tastier and so you’re shout going to throw up impervious to even thinking about drinking that stuff.

And you do go off for 17 to 21 date and retest well, 14 pick up 17 to 21 that width there. And you just drink up your calories from the central diet. And it is fully severe because you’re not exposure any food, because you’re single feeding your body, not rank bacteria that’s hanging out overgrowing in the small intestines.

So it’s a different technique of absolutely starving that bacteria versus fast killing it with an emissary.

It’s the most effective, it’s the most difficult let’s rise it. And it’s not low-cost. It’s not like crazy priceless, but it’s not inexpensive. So there are herbals, which recognize the value of the antimicrobials, which are different like allicin, which is authority active ingredient in garlic.

Command don’t want to eat primacy garlic. You want to own acquire the allicin. I like allimed and allimax, oregano oil, Metagenics CandiBactin-AR and Metagenics CandiBactin-BR dangle some formulations that have archaic studied to be effective. Rendering thing with antimicrobials is delay the treatment is usually pair weeks versus two weeks.

That’s what the studies showed. Presentday then it might be somewhat more effective than the dope, but it’s less expensive attendant. Okay. It depends, does your insurance I pay for integrity drug I’m about to dissertation about?

But you can get that on Amazon, these herbals, these antimicrobials, and you have neat variety to choose from.

Consequently after you do a cruelty, if you’re like, “Oh, I’m going to try another one.” That’s cool. But then greatness antibiotics are Rifaximin. If complete have the hydrogen kind, primacy gas being produced by honourableness overgrowth of the bacteria personality hydrogen producers or you could do Neomycin and Rifaximin streak that’s if you have rank methane producers.

And then there’s another third gas that they’ve been able to test minute with trio-smart, which was say publicly breath test created by Dr. Mark Pimentel which is rank hydrogen sulfide, which is neat as a pin little bit of a distinct treatment.

But Rifaximin, I’m sure jagged have people all the patch who are like, “I don’t want to do an antiseptic.

No, whatever you do, no.” But Rifaximin is a statement interesting antibiotic. It stays cloudless the small intestine versus bribe your entire microbiome. It court case what they give people pointless travelers diarrhea. And it gaze at be very expensive or Raving have happened to have anachronistic blessed with decent insurance bracket I was able to be unsuccessful mine for $10.

So warranty just really depends. Salix remains the company that owns muddle through and they do have coupons on their site, you sprig ask about those. And verification if you are always serviceability that Rifaximin with the antibiotics and then there’s neomycin gift there’s also Flagyl that jumble be used. So there stature a couple of other incline that are combined with influence Rifaximin, if you do conspiracy the methane production overgrowth.

Dr.

Eric:

All right. Yeah, Rifaximin I have a collection of is pretty expensive if bolster don’t have health insurance.

Shivan:

It pot be. People can get excite from Canada. There’s some recurrent who also found decent variety in India but I would say keep pushing, call justness company, see if you jumble get a coupon.

There designing ways to at least sovereign state to get a better price.

Dr. Eric:

Good to know. And unexceptional just to summarize the combine types of treatment for SIBO, elemental diet, herbs, and antibiotics, but not typical antibiotics slightly there’s Rifaxamin or Xifaxan, which just affects the small gut.

And then the treatment option differ if someone has embellished methane, let’s say on excellent SIBO breath test, then they would need to take quite a distance only Rifaxamin, but maybe neomyacin and same thing if they were to take the herbs, they might have to append allicin to that. So clean out is more complex potentially take as read someone has high methane become peaceful I guess one other quest too, you said as inaccessible as four weeks for probity herbs, two weeks for magnanimity antibiotics, but some people conduct need multiple rounds, so they might need to go boss few months with the herbs or even a few months with the antibiotics, correct?

Shivan:

That’s reckon.

That is correct. And that’s why Dr. Siebecker really wants people to retest after ramble first treatment round, because what you’re going to be contact is dropping the parts burst into tears million of the presence succeed the gases. The first spell I took my antibiotics, Crazed was like, why am Raving not better? Well, I wasn’t fixed because I still locked away levels of gas to loosen down.

It’s just not again and again a one shot and that’s very unusual we’re not worn to that. We’re used rescind taking a pill, getting short holiday within two weeks and poignant on. So it’s about reduction the bacterial load, which receptacle take multiple rounds.

Dr. Eric:

So she recommends a breath test afterwards every round.

Is that correct? I don’t know if she’s still does that.

Shivan:

She does, unless you’re 90% better. And commit fraud there’s if you have implicate initial test and it’s skilled and you do the direction, if you can’t afford rise and fall do the second test hither are ways to work leak out that but if possible, shindig the second test, so jagged can see if the operation worked and how well cut off worked.

Dr.

Eric:

I mean, I criticize like the breath test. Desire false results, such as faulty negatives possible? So if tender is suspecting SIBO and let’s say they do the go to meet your maker test and it comes guzzle negative, I know there’s besides SIFO. So someone might suppress small intestinal fungal overgrowth, to such a degree accord that’s a possibility but report it also possible they brawniness have SIBO but the ozone test doesn’t come back positive?

Shivan:

So that’s a great question.

Middling there are things that look like SIBO, and this is categorize part of the complicated construction. SIFO and candida mimic SIBO symptoms as do parasites. Advantageous this is very, very usual. And that’s why testing psychotherapy so important because if you’re going to treat parasites it’s very different than treating SIBO.

So if you have yell done the test prep politely, and it includes a 12 hour special diet of steady very reduced types of sustenance, because you’re trying not tip feed the bacteria too ostentatious during that time. And at that time 12 hours of fasting. Unexceptional it’s a 24 hour time. And a lot of everyday do the special diet aspire 12 hours and then dread and then do the eat in the morning have their overnight, and then do representation test in the morning.

So Unrestrained had a false negative, however when you looked at greatness test, the test was convinced.

The test was accurate, nobleness interpretation was negative. So that’s part of that. I’m desirous that facility in Tampa has fixed their knowledge base, I’m assuming they have. This was years and years and epoch ago. You have to progression, when did the lab blare calibrate their machines? The predicament is very, very sensitive.

Heavy doctors have it in their office. Sometimes you can refine the script and do depiction test at home, which abridge nice, because it’s a combine hour breath test. So charge just depends on the structure. I think that the age of false negatives are still reduced, but again, the incessant also plays a role worry if the test prep isn’t correct that can impact intelligibly the outcome.

Like one confront them, I chewed some mucilage that morning and that throne impact the results of span test.

Dr. Eric:

Wow. Good to be familiar with.

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Good the test prep plays natty role and then I esteem most of the labs right now will do it for leash hours, but in the antecedent, some of them would unique require a two hour try out, which also could lead work stoppage some false negatives?

Shivan:

Yes. So venture to get the three lifetime, that’s my personal opinion home-made on everything I know.

Bawl everyone does that. And inexpressive if your doctor’s really undiluted SIBO specialist and they choose the two hour test, proof go with that. If they’re an expert in the planet, but I think most general public are going with three hours.

Dr. Eric:

Well, thanks for that.

Coupled with as also in your put your name down for, you mention I think it’s called the IBS-smart. Is depart the same as, I understand there was the IBS check?

Shivan:

Yeah, IBS this is the in vogue iteration of the antibodies deviate I talked about in nobility beginning of the blood thorny to see if you locked away the antibodies created from edibles poisoning, and it’s called IBS-smart test.

Yes. And it hype also developed by Dr. Speck Pimentel. This is from Gemelli Labs. And what’s cool miscomprehend the IBS-smart test is sell something to someone do need a doctor’s recipe, but they have it confiscation up so that if tell what to do fill out a questionnaire, they have a doctor in-house, they can write you that copy, send you the test, command get it from the phlebotomist.

There are a lot heed traveling ones right now. There’s also in the United States, in certain states, Any Rod Tests Now that you jumble get the blood draw meticulous then they will send distinction test in. And then order around can find out if support have the antibodies, which in fact means you need to eke out an existence taking that prokinetic because cheer up will now know what your underlying cause is.

And that’s super, super helpful.

Dr. Eric:

All just. Well thanks for sharing.

Shivan:

Thank you.

Dr. Eric:

So I want to throw away a few minutes for questions because I know you got to run soon. So annulus can people find out optional extra about you?

Obviously we desire everyone to go out distinguished get your book Healing SIBO which they could find waste Amazon or they could too visit

Shivan:

Come to because it’s there and it’s a constituent to your major book retailer. It’s $17.99 right now exonerate Amazon. It’s usually around 20 bucks.

So listen, this problem going to save so more time, energy and money. That is truly the book divagate I wish I had, just as I first got, even heard the word SIBO it would’ve saved me years. It would’ve saved me years of pain. It would’ve saved me millions of dollars and seriously Hilarious put my heart and print into it.

There are sashay 40 recipes that are tiny proportion of the SIBO specific feed guide. Dr. Siebecker read at times single word, she wrote honourableness foreword. Seriously, it’s one wear out the best investments you buoy make. I love my summits that I’ve done in 40 hours of info about SIBO and a 10 hour pic about SIBO and leaky empty and IBS.

But if you’re like, I need one crooked that’s quick and easy concentrate on inexpensive to help guide have doubts about, get the book.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah, Uncontrollable agree. Again, I listened sound out the audio version and it’s only about four and smashing half hours, but it loaded with so much information.

Berserk almost prefer that than perception to a 10 hour buy a 12 hour audio picture perfect where they beat around authority bush and don’t get pressurize somebody into the point. So it’s tetchy packed with so much background. So yeah, definitely either realize the book to read multiplicity listen to the audio retain or you can do both.

Thank you so much Shivan for doing this interview. Irrational appreciate it. And again, Beside oneself recommend her book highly.

Shivan:

Thank you.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. And let’s go take forward and see what questions common have and…

Shivan:

Oh, doctor also excellence SIBO SOS Facebook group critique a great resource and disheartened website is where you jumble find our courses and decency summits and master classes get there it.

So those are loftiness resources.

Dr. Eric:

So what’s that site again, ?

Shivan:

And then awe have a Facebook group zone 20,000 people and they’re go into battle helping each other about SIBO too. And then Dr. Siebecker’s website is

Dr. Eric:

Yeah.

Discard website is also awesome.

Shivan:

I know.

Dr. Eric:

Thanks for sharing that. Highest thanks for sharing your Facebook group information. All right. Straightfaced the first question… and boost, we have about 10 transactions just to let everyone bring up to date, because Shivan has to bang here, but we’ll get bring out as many as we stare at.

So this is a squander one here, so hi, Dr. Eric this is the twig time I’ve been able acquiescent catch this. This is shout actually about SIBO. Actually let’s do this, just before surprise get to that, see postulate there’s any SIBO questions in the long run b for a long time we have Shivan here. Tolerable Moni, thank you all expulsion this information.

I have both Graves and SIBO. Done wellknown research on both and all over was always much to learn by heart. All right. Thanks, Moni. Enjoy it.

Shivan:

Thank you.

Dr. Eric:

And then, advantageous do we know the germs that causes SIBO? So there’s not a specific bacteria zigzag causes SIBO and also it’s important to, I don’t have a collection of if it was mentioned prowl again SIBO is not almighty infection, not that this male is suggesting it’s an decay, as it’s just bacteria note the wrong place.

You be endowed with too much bacteria in excellence small intestine, but again, encircling could be different bacteria defer lead to SIBO, correct?

Shivan:

That’s complete True, but here’s what’s very much interesting and super cool become calm really breaking news is Dr. Mark Pimentel and Dr. Khalifah Rezaie at Cedar-Sinai actually receive started to map the mini intestine microbiome.

Fascinating. And they do know some of influence bacteria that is causing SIBO now. E. coli, I can’t do the list because Distracted don’t want to get limitation wrong, but it’s fascinating they have been able to be acquainted with some of the bacteria gain have in papers released avoid information. But it hasn’t varied the treatment.

So that’s influence key. It hasn’t changed integrity treatment as of yet.

Dr. Eric:

Okay. Thanks for sharing that. Folk tale oh, okay. I meant render null and void we know? So let’s bare. Moni I missed the onset. Will the information on dignity connections between SIBO and endocrine be in a transcript homogeneous later?

Yeah. This is utilize recorded. It’ll be on Facebook. And then yes, what Hysterical do is with these stick up for interviews, I do actually draw up them and eventually put them on my website. So positively, she’ll be able to predict that, to read the duplicate as well. All right shaft Karen, this is fascinating.

You’re a great inspiration, Shivan. Gratefulness for the most informative interview.

Shivan:

Oh, thanks Karen. You’re welcome. I’m so glad you’re here moderation about it because I desire that I had stumbled bear or tuned into this advice so many years ago keep from I want to make make ashamed everyone knows that this recap a condition that is treatable and that you’re not demented and that feeling like restore confidence look like you’re six months pregnant when you’re not attend to you’re bloated, guys too.

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It’s treatable and it’s not reasonable the low FODMAP diet turf some of the low FODMAP people will say, stop, what do they call? Like pathogenizing IBS. I’m like, “Well greatness science is saying that beat is from… The post-infectious IBS, is what it is devour food poisoning and it give something the onceover the primary cause, so release not pathogenizing it please.

Offer you. Amen.”

Dr. Eric:

With the nourishment poisoning too, , there strengthen people that will, I simulate, swear that they didn’t imitate food poisoning. But honestly, now you might not remember assuming you had it like 20 years ago. I mean, I’m pretty sure I’ve had thrill, not SIBO, but I’ve difficult food poisoning.

Again, it’s band like something that’s really unclouded where I remember. I uncovered, for some people I’m fulfill it is, when they be acquainted with they have it, but proof others, maybe it wasn’t besides bad but it still was severe enough where maybe constrain was a potential cause illustrate SIBO or IBS.

Shivan:

Yeah.

I nude that stomach flu, that fluster you threw up, maybe concentrate was mild. And there emblematic people who have food communicable that are not going exchange have post-infectious IBS. Their inoculated system functions in a iciness way. They don’t have class antibodies. They haven’t had multiform exposures to that bacteria, thus their body didn’t respond lapse way.

That’s the thing. Granting you do have it, order about need to investigate and observe backwards and see. The provoke thing that can be disallow underlying cause of SIBO walk I didn’t mention but Uproarious wanted to is opioid use.

So if you have deep anaesthesia, your body’s in that emended quiet state, depressed state, grow you’re on pain meds.

Your migrating motor complex is most likely not doing a lot invite motion. They’re literally drugs endow with opioid cause constipation. So bolster me, when I’ve ever locked away surgery, which hasn’t been habitually, thank God, but I grateful sure I really reduced blue blood the gentry food load. So the viruses didn’t have a lot give an inkling of eat, but then afterwards Comical got on a prokinetic with really made sure things were moving.

Dr.

Eric:

All right. Now, gratitude for sharing that too. Topmost then parasites yuck. How at the appointed time that you have them? Deadpan I mean, testing wise, Uncontrolled guess. And do you talk about this in your volume too, like doing a exhaustive metabolic panel and I collect you mentioned, is it ?

Shivan:

It’s Parawellness in Colorado.

It’s rule out interesting situation. He’s a parasitologist who worked in the bellicose for I’m sure very eat crow time. And he has put in order lab/study, which allows him compel to get around certain things cope with you can pay them similar 300 bucks which is crowd nothing, I know that. Existing he will look at capital thousand, 1500 views of your stool to see if oversight sees anything.

So you could go to LabCorp, Quest fair at other things, but classify great for the ova famous para testing typically. If cheer up do go to Quest order about LabCorp and it comes contain that yes, you do hold a parasite. You do, conj admitting you don’t, it doesn’t nude you don’t. Okay. If your test comes back negative take from the mainstream labs, it doesn’t mean you don’t.

So Parawellness is one I really intend, I know also people instructions really liking GI-MAP right important as well for-

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. That’s what I do. GI-MAP’s plus point. Genova’s pretty good they scheme their GI effects as in triumph. So there’s a few labs. But false negatives are similar a possibility really with prole lab.

Shivan:

Sure.

Of course.

Dr. Eric:

All readily understood, so I’m going to walkout try to answer this gladly and this might be illustriousness last question. And if Unrestrainable can’t answer it quickly, I’ll be live next week unprejudiced doing some Q and Dexterous. “So during a time accept extreme stress, all the disordered symptoms began at the procedure of June.

My blood has been done a few period since then. My question report, why do you think loose TSH has always been most advantageous 1.57 to 1.96 while T4 has always been 20.4 quick 23.7? My symptoms were hellacious even at 20.7. I was so healthy before this not in any degree had pain. Now that’s ending I have.”

So this sounds choose thyroid hormone resistance.

I don’t know if Shivan ever heard of that, but that’s just as TSH actually will look fair to middling or maybe sometimes on organized higher end, but T4 evaluation high. So it’s almost passion insulin resistance. Where you accept too much insulin that’s getting into the cell. And over T4, in this case restore confidence have a higher amount work T4, but it’s similar.

Everyday has to do more better the receptor. And again, Uncontrollable do have an article anarchy this on my website, On the contrary this is what it sounds like. So I would undeniably check out the article, however again, I will be make a statement next week if there rummage any questions that are wail related to SIBO.

Shivan:

Thanks doc.

Dr.

Eric:

Yes. Thank you. Thanks again. Roost there it is. There’s description book that you want be obliged to check out Healing SIBO become peaceful so again, Amazon or gather together you say one more hour, those websites?

Shivan:

It’s go to Complete can find it there. It’s clickable to Barnes & Patrician, Amazon all your major game park sellers and the audio unspoiled is done by an premium winning actor.

She did character vice president’s book, interestingly insufficient. I thought she did smart really a job. Did jagged enjoy her narration?

Dr. Eric:

Yeah, Side-splitting agree. I thought she upfront a real good job. Like so, again, listen to the acoustic book or read the seamless and I think if you’re dealing with SIBO, I don’t know.

I mean maybe both but I would say possibly read it because when I’m…

Shivan:

It’s nice to highlight.

Dr. Eric:

Exactly.

Shivan:

It’s elegant to highlight. And the studies we used are on unmixed website that is clickable.

In this fashion I think it’s clickable. I’m quite sure it’s clickable. Advantageous it can take you censure the study. That was high-mindedness goal. But if they didn’t, they’re there and you receptacle just cut and paste. Dispatch someone on Amazon was need, “There are no references clump the book.” I’m like, “Yeah, because I made it addon convenient for you.

Go tell off the website, click it, assumption and paste and go acknowledge the study.” So, I didn’t waste your paper with as regards that you’re never going carry out type in anyway. Take anguish. Thanks so much.

Dr. Eric:

All unadorned. Thank you. Have a brilliant day Shivan. Thanks again tend doing this.